Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!!

I finally solved what causes the crash/freeze at the end of the turn! It turned out that it is the city states. All you have to do to be able to play the game without issues is to disable city states! Now we can all finally enjoy the whole game as it was meant to be played by the devs <3

Oaks replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 2:06:58 am PDT
Oaks replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 2:06:58 am PDT

That's not a very practical solution. Have you tried some of the other standard fixes such as the 2k launcher skip?

grognardgary replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 4:48:11 am PDT
grognardgary replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 4:48:11 am PDT

Or instead of disabling all of them just reduce the number of them until it no longer hangs fire.

Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 5:03:23 am PDT
Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 26, 2021 @ 5:03:23 am PDT

Originally posted by grognardgary:
Or instead of disabling all of them just reduce the number of them until it no longer hangs fire.
Tested with only 1, that was enough...

D34DLY replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 28, 2021 @ 4:08:15 pm PDT
D34DLY replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 28, 2021 @ 4:08:15 pm PDT

interesting. for unrelated reasons, I have been playing with 0 city states lately. I will pay attention to whether crashing is reduced.

(I edited Civ to have crazy amounts of barbarians. The city states kill off barbarians and clear barbarian camps, so i removed the city states so the barbarian plague wouldn't be hindered.)

Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 29, 2021 @ 2:14:37 am PDT
Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 29, 2021 @ 2:14:37 am PDT

Originally posted by D34DLY:
interesting. for unrelated reasons, I have been playing with 0 city states lately. I will pay attention to whether crashing is reduced.

(I edited Civ to have crazy amounts of barbarians. The city states kill off barbarians and clear barbarian camps, so i removed the city states so the barbarian plague wouldn't be hindered.)

Just finished a little over a 1000 turn marathon game with 0 city states and 18 civilizations to fill up the space left by city states and it crashed a whole 0 times!

knarfmo replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 29, 2021 @ 11:17:09 am PDT
knarfmo replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 29, 2021 @ 11:17:09 am PDT

I started having this issue after the December 2021 update. I was playing a game with 0 city states and it worked fine. I started a second game with City states and started getting stuck by the 10-15th turn. I may try the launcher skip, as this seems to be related to the December update.

Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 30, 2021 @ 12:28:49 am PDT
Ben_P replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 30, 2021 @ 12:28:49 am PDT

Originally posted by knarfmo:
I started having this issue after the December 2021 update. I was playing a game with 0 city states and it worked fine. I started a second game with City states and started getting stuck by the 10-15th turn. I may try the launcher skip, as this seems to be related to the December update.

At least for me it is not launcher related. No matter if I skip the launcher or not, it still happens. Also tried on linux and 3 different pc so I am pretty sure it is something in the main code of the game. It is a shame that firaxis can't seem to find the bug or even motivation to try to fix it.

D34DLY replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 30, 2021 @ 4:09:36 pm PDT
D34DLY replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 30, 2021 @ 4:09:36 pm PDT

yeah, I played about 16 hours of Civ with no city states (since reading this), and I've had no end of turn crashes. At times, I can go a long time without crashes, so this isn't definitive, but so far this seems like a solution to most of the crashing problems that occur during the AI's turn.

Given that the City States are causing the crashing/freeze, it should make finding the source code of this intermittent problem much easier to find. But, it seems they have stopped maintaining this game, unfortunately.

SqueekyRatter replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 31, 2021 @ 11:28:29 am PDT
SqueekyRatter replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! December 31, 2021 @ 11:28:29 am PDT

For fun i decided to Play VI again after a while; constant crashes now after years of smooth gameplay, at exactly the same point (AI turn). MY theory: It is a pathing issue caused by the AI "renting units" of city states. I noticed the AI seems to rent a lot of units (even at early game (how it gets all the money for this in the first 20-30 turns is odd), In several games i have noticed AI civ units that are rented just stay in the original city state's borders and block CS units that may cause pathing loops. The earlier in a game the crashes occur the smaller/constricted a map is.

knarfmo replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 6:47:46 am PDT
knarfmo replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 6:47:46 am PDT

I did receive info from 2k support, and it did improve the situation:

Thanks for reaching out to 2K Support center, Knarfmo! My name is Yolandie. I am happy to assist you today.

Here are some PC-specific steps to ensure that the game and all its required software is properly installed.

Please follow this 2K Support Article ( https://support.2k.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009266794--PC-General-Troubleshooting-for-2K-Games) in order to access the steps you'll need to follow. Please make sure to go through each step so we can rule them out as a possible cause.

This seems to have stopped the problem where the turn won't advance. But then I had a good old-fashioned freeze up. But that has happened once. I was able to play the game with city states yesterday and had no problems.

Roflstompskin replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 7:20:08 am PDT
Roflstompskin replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 7:20:08 am PDT

Support sent me the same generic link/options. They even asked to uninstall/reinstall which did not work either. I got about 500 hours on this game with no stability issues, most some years back so hopefully they'll find and fix the bug.

grognardgary replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 9:03:07 am PDT
grognardgary replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 9:03:07 am PDT

A Problem that only affects about 10% of users or less is going to be a bear to find as with any intermittent problem with anything.

Roflstompskin replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 1:22:53 pm PDT
Roflstompskin replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 1:22:53 pm PDT

After disabling all city states, I was able to play 300 turns without a crash before saving and quit.

Gorgeous_Joe replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 3:12:27 pm PDT
Gorgeous_Joe replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 3:12:27 pm PDT

2K has resolved this bug by announcing the release of Civ7 later this year....

Mute-otaku replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 5:48:47 pm PDT
Mute-otaku replied to Please wait freeze/crash finally solved!! January 1, 2022 @ 5:48:47 pm PDT

this is good news thank you

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