after 72+ weeks from launch why the f*ck is this game still so badly optimised ... im running a 3600x cpu overclocked to 3.9ghz ... 80gb of ram .. a 6600xt with fidelityfx turned on and as soon as i light a torch or stand near a F*cking fire my fps goes from a steady 60-120 down to 5 .. seriously .. i want to play the game not feel sick from watching a stop motion w*nk fest, with my system specs i should be STABLE or are the devs just to busy Blowing each other to actually fix the issues

Problem with fire, especially forest fire after lighting, with all AMD card and my 6750XT too, because of UNREAL engine, which not fix it. I had drop to 20-25 fps.

Originally posted by КрендельФигов:

Problem with fire, especially forest fire after lighting, with all AMD card and my 6750XT too, because of UNREAL engine, which not fix it. I had drop to 20-25 fps.

so i managed to sort of get it .. i switched to dx12 which lets me run in caves with the torch lit and trees on fire BUT HOLY SH*T ... the lightning strikes them selves kills the fps ... seems to be a combo of unreal engine and also dx11 not liking them

Yep! more PROOF u gonna need at least $2000 worth of machine just to play the game!
Golf might be cheaper! REAL Golf!

Originally posted by Goob:

Yep! more PROOF u gonna need at least $2000 worth of machine just to play the game!
Golf might be cheaper! REAL Golf!

hahaha being married is defo cheaper ... this game is starting to feel i little like star citizen ... never gonna be finished or optimised

Chill out mate, it's still in development. F**k off if you're not willing to accept that, and partake in the development of the game. It's impressive how far it has come, and how they release an update every week. I have a similar spec AMD system and don't have these frame drops you whinge about. Update your drivers, clean your filthy mouth and PC, do anything, but come into these forums and talk ♥♥♥♥. You all look like a whiny loosers.

I have the same issues, running all AMD here. Game is almost unplayable in an open world map once i have built any sort of base. Works fine for my friends running Nvidia cards.

Don't think it's fair to say the game is still in development. They choose to release and not go through the early access process like they have with their other game, Stationeers. A game that I'm a big fan of, and have enjoyed the way they have handled it's development.

Originally posted by Tealise:

I have the same issues, running all AMD here. Game is almost unplayable in an open world map once i have built any sort of base. Works fine for my friends running Nvidia cards.

Don't think it's fair to say the game is still in development. They choose to release and not go through the early access process like they have with their other game, Stationeers. A game that I'm a big fan of, and have enjoyed the way they have handled it's development.

totally agree with you here ... after 72 weeks from launch the game should be in a very stable playable state and instead we have a turd ... i got the game on launch and had to stop playing it because the bugs where making me sick .. roll on nearly 1.5 years and the same fps drop is still happening

as for the dipsh*t who said clean my pc and update my drivers ... my pc has a fresh install 2 times a year .. all the drivers are updated its not the pc thats having the brain fart its the f*cking game ... for that all you need do is open then 2 things in your f*cking head called eyes and read the forums ... its all over on the discussion boards so its OBVIOUSLY NOT ME

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Originally posted by Goob:

Yep! more PROOF u gonna need at least $2000 worth of machine just to play the game!
Golf might be cheaper! REAL Golf!

nah, all you need is 20/month, then you got RTX 4080 GPU power even.
Google Nvidia's GEFORCE NOW
works like a charm. Buddy in our group went for it.
catch-22: speedy internet required

Same here. When using a torch or campfire with an AMD/6600xt, my FPS drops from 60-80 to 2FPS! This issue has been known for 1.5 years, and the developers have stated that they are aware of the bug and are working with AMD to address the problem.

In my opinion, if you are charging money for an EA, having a bug like this go unaddressed for 1.5 years is unacceptable. I'm sorry.

Originally posted by RedBeard:

Same here. When using a torch or campfire with an AMD/6600xt, my FPS drops from 60-80 to 2FPS! This issue has been known for 1.5 years, and the developers have stated that they are aware of the bug and are working with AMD to address the problem.

In my opinion, if you are charging money for an EA, having a bug like this go unaddressed for 1.5 years is unacceptable. I'm sorry.

try running dx12 if possible it should reduce the amount of fps but it WONT get rid of it all together and if lighting is near you .. it will sh*t the bed like your holding a torch but only for a few sec ... but still it should not be happening on a game thats 1.5 years old and they knew about this the whole time

Originally posted by Geneslicer:

as soon as i light a torch or stand near a F*cking fire my fps goes from a steady 60-120 down to 5

I don't think the devs can fix that.
It seems it's an issue with how AMD cards are computing the ray-tracing of 'quick moving light sources'. Quite a number of other games seem to have same/similar issues. Not sure if it's a purely Unreal-Engine 4 problem or across the board of engines...

I've a thought: can ATI/AMD GPUs separate between ray-tracing and global illumination? Depending on how may light sources I have on in my glass-concrete high-rise, upon entering the building my RTX 3080 has a fraction of a second a freeze, as it's calculating all the new global illumination scene, when entering from the outside. Not so if I'm just running ray-tracing only.

You ATI/AMD guys tried experimenting with that per chance?

Here's another thought, since it gets better using DX12 instead of DX11 - I might be wrong, but are AMD/ATI cards doing the ray-tracing on the GPU itself, or is it offloading that to the CPU?
DX12 is doing a much better job in multi-threading across multi-core CPUs than DX11 does...

What amazes me that people are always saying it's the hardware when the truth is the developer can't code. It all comes down to how the dev codes the game, and has nothing to do with a systems hardware.

STOP blaming the hardware, and stop supporting the dev's laziness.

Originally posted by MycroftCanadaNS:

What amazes me that people are always saying it's the hardware when the truth is the developer can't code. It all comes down to how the dev codes the game, and has nothing to do with a systems hardware.

STOP blaming the hardware, and stop supporting the dev's laziness.

Newsflash: by default it's the middle-ware, like Unreal Engine 4 or UNITY that does all the physics/lights calculations, not the coding by devs in general, unless they're middling with it to do something experimental.
Also, ever wondered why it's just happening with AMD/ATI cards and not NVIDIA cards? And why the impact is worse with DX11 than DX12?
Still think it is not the hardware/middle-ware at fault?

Originally posted by Atlana:

Still think it is not the hardware/middle-ware at fault?

Yes