its a shame what have come to this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game , where are the developpers f69cking hiding like worms now , where is communication tell us whats happening , too scared to say our game is f69cked with cheaters ? fix the damn game and communicate with the players you ♥♥♥♥♥ , every f$$$$ckin game 2 teams cheating ruining everyone game

Originally posted by Psycho:

I read about these cases at the time, it was also one of the reasons why I stopped playing, I was a supporter at the time on early access and I did enjoy a lot playing it, but unfortunately I started to lose my taste for this type of games when I realized that this generation of gamers think that cheating is considered as skill.
I confess sometimes I miss playing but I know that in reality from what I noticed in these years that passed, this road maps etc this will never improve until they really solve the anti-cheat problem as they keep promising.
Also, my guess is that they put this as free-to-play so they don't lose a number of players for what I think is most important to them, but I could be wrong or not.

Its all correct,but aside of cheating problem (which is massive right now) there is way much more issues such as :
Bad optimization,broken hitboxes,broken netcode,bad hit registration,still huge amount of visual and other bugs,broken ranked system (masters play against silver), bad weapon performance and spawn ratio balance,broken weapon animations,forced mouse acceleration and a lot of other issues.
If they even somehow get rid of all the cheaters - the game wont become better.

I agree with you, I don't know why but in early access the game was much more optimized than it is now, a friend of my could even played back then with is old setup (low end pc with everything at medium 1080p) with 80/100 fps.
Talking about broken netcode, what i hated the most and what happened to me a few times was the "dsync", like for exemple:
Running to protect myself from enemy fire after a second or two while i was already in cover behind a big rock or wall i died. But when I saw my replays, what had happened was that I had been killed while i was running to reach the cover position, which on my screen didn't happen nothing like that. It was kinda of frustrating to be honest.

Originally posted by Psycho:

I agree with you, I don't know why but in early access the game was much more optimized than it is now, a friend of my could even played back then with is old setup (low end pc with everything at medium 1080p) with 80/100 fps.
Talking about broken netcode, what i hated the most and what happened to me a few times was the "dsync", like for exemple:
Running to protect myself from enemy fire after a second or two while i was already in cover behind a big rock or wall i died. But when I saw my replays, what had happened was that I had been killed while i was running to reach the cover position, which on my screen didn't happen nothing like that. It was kinda of frustrating to be honest.

This happens when you are playing against high ping players.
Such situations occur when your ping is 10-50 but enemy ping is 200+. There is little to none any dev can do to fix such thing since this is how internet connection works. Some games implementing ping difference compensation methods but they are really questionable and usually doesnt work.
At the end lower ping still gives your more advantage over such players,especially in close combat. You can peek them (open yourself and start shooting) before they will react. Thats called peekers advantage.
But having a situation when you mag dump a standing still player with 416 on 15 meters range and it counts only two hits before he turn and laser you with first 2 bullets... Man this hits different.

Originally posted by ZEFIR001:

It has nothing to do with Chinese devs or their vision of business model.
The real problem is that Krafton employees are actually founders or code writers of multiple hack services.
They even get caught 3 times but no one cares. This is why this game anti-cheat is ineffective.

i actually had a theory and if you can help prove to me they are actually giving out cheats or busted 3 times then i think it would prolly confirm my theory on whats going on with marketing atleast for me.(i know many dont believe in conspiracy's ect)
can you show me what you mean busted 3 times

Originally posted by THE OCCULT GOD:

Originally posted by ZEFIR001:

It has nothing to do with Chinese devs or their vision of business model.
The real problem is that Krafton employees are actually founders or code writers of multiple hack services.
They even get caught 3 times but no one cares. This is why this game anti-cheat is ineffective.

i actually had a theory and if you can help prove to me they are actually giving out cheats or busted 3 times then i think it would prolly confirm my theory on whats going on with marketing atleast for me.(i know many dont believe in conspiracy's ect)
can you show me what you mean busted 3 times

I went to my post history to actually find my previous comments where i dropped the articles links for the 2 times they are being caught. But it looks like they get deleted,and i no longer able to find those links in google or anywhere else. Two times selling data to cheat developers and one major scandal around fraudulent activity within company (probably failed to split or launder money from 3rd time selling cheats).
The only thing is left is first case when this happened before full merge with Krafton : https://pubg.ac/news/18506-pubg-corp-connected-to-cheaters

you gotta remember.. it was sold to chinese devs.. what else do you expect, why do you think the game went form the best ever to being all about micro transactions, theres what.. 5 different currencys now with zero explanation on how to craft , they made all items non marketable so you were forced to buy from them.. cheaters will only get worse

Originally posted by Mifsopo:

you gotta remember.. it was sold to chinese devs.. what else do you expect, why do you think the game went form the best ever to being all about micro transactions, theres what.. 5 different currencys now with zero explanation on how to craft , they made all items non marketable so you were forced to buy from them.. cheaters will only get worse

Your conclusion is based on a wrong point because PUBG never got sold.

Krafton is a holding company that got created from Bluehole.

https://www.forbes.com/profile/chang-byung-gyu/

"Chang Byung-gyu is chairman of online gaming company Krafton (formerly known as Bluehole), which he founded in 2007.

In 2018 Tencent invested more than $500 million in the company for a 10% stake, catapulting Bluehole to unicorn status overnight.

Its shooter game, PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, broke a world record in 2017 after posting $100 million in pre-release sales in just 79 days."

Many parts of the topic of cheating are subjective but this point is definitely not true.

Originally posted by SaaD:

where is communication tell us whats happening

Yes correct, communication is very important but on the other hand, it takes a while before they have something they can share with us and the next big announcement isn't far away anymore. I rather wait some time than get the same boring report every 4 weeks or 3 months.

I exclude the number of banned accounts because this is something they should announce frequently.

Originally posted by Mifsopo:

you gotta remember.. it was sold to chinese devs.. what else do you expect, why do you think the game went form the best ever to being all about micro transactions, theres what.. 5 different currencys now with zero explanation on how to craft , they made all items non marketable so you were forced to buy from them.. cheaters will only get worse

Blame it on Brendan Greene's (creator of PUBG) mistake, he saw an opportunity to make a lot of money and did what he did.
But he ended up knowing that company well and when he saw a good opportunity he left when he realized what fundamentals they had for the future of the game and also because he wanted to focus on his own projects.
It was a well executed move on his part, a shame it was associated with that company.

It has nothing to do with Chinese devs or their vision of business model.
The real problem is that Krafton employees are actually founders or code writers of multiple hack services.
They even get caught 3 times but no one cares. This is why this game anti-cheat is ineffective.

I read about these cases at the time, it was also one of the reasons why I stopped playing, I was a supporter at the time on early access and I did enjoy a lot playing it, but unfortunately I started to lose my taste for this type of games when I realized that this generation of gamers think that cheating is considered as skill.
I confess sometimes I miss playing but I know that in reality from what I noticed in these years that passed, this road maps etc this will never improve until they really solve the anti-cheat problem as they keep promising.
Also, my guess is that they put this as free-to-play so they don't lose a number of players for what I think is most important to them, but I could be wrong or not.