Please

Shove your Wellbia-spyware where the sun don't shine.

ZEFIR001 replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 9:57:20 am PDT
ZEFIR001 replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 9:57:20 am PDT

Not gonna happen.
Wellbia is a powerful kernel level rootkit now. After recent update it implements itself as part of the windows.
Now it has full control of your PC including all the data (even browser data,) CPU voltages, frequency,boot devices...
Not gonna be surprised if they execute a 0 day attack and all the PC's which had PUBG installed after 04/20/2023 gonna be fried.
Never trust Krafton. They scammed you with the game releasing it for free,they scammed you with skins,they scammed you with map selection.
And they will scam you with your PC.

忍者 Tortuga replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 10:31:07 am PDT
忍者 Tortuga replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 10:31:07 am PDT

Originally posted by ZEFIR001:
Not gonna happen.
Wellbia is a powerful kernel level rootkit now. After recent update it implements itself as part of the windows.
Now it has full control of your PC including all the data (even browser data,) CPU voltages, frequency,boot devices...
Not gonna be surprised if they execute a 0 day attack and all the PC's which had PUBG installed after 04/20/2023 gonna be fried.
Never trust Krafton. They scammed you with the game releasing it for free,they scammed you with skins,they scammed you with map selection.
And they will scam you with your PC.

I know. That's why I keep saying "No" every time it tries to install itself when I start the game. Game runs fine without it, by the way. Just absolute proof that it doesn't do anything to improve the game and isn't even used to catch cheaters.
It's just malware, which is why I say: Shove it.

Lega replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 10:40:38 am PDT
Lega replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 10:40:38 am PDT

I don't see this argument because every non kernel level anti-cheat already has the access to all important things people would care of and you can't deactivate the anti-cheat.

What would happen if they abuse it?

They would get in trouble with Steam, Microsoft, and the governments of many states including the EU and this means a possible loss of billions of dollars.

As far as I know, there is not a single case where an anti-cheat abused its power, not a single one and if you look at the consequences it won't happen.

忍者 Tortuga replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 11:22:57 am PDT
忍者 Tortuga replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 11:22:57 am PDT

Originally posted by Lega:
I don't see this argument because every non kernel level anti-cheat already has the access to all important things people would care of and you can't deactivate the anti-cheat.

What would happen if they abuse it?

They would get in trouble with Steam, Microsoft, and the governments of many states including the EU and this means a possible loss of billions of dollars.

As far as I know, there is not a single case where an anti-cheat abused its power, not a single one and if you look at the consequences it won't happen.

We would only find out if they abused our data if there was a company leak. Which could take years. And then, even if the EU takes legal action, that might take another few months/years. Just look at how long it took them to create regulations for loot crates.

And, as you say, "every non kernel level anti-cheat already has the access to all important things people would care of and you can't deactivate the anti-cheat", then why do they go the route of planting it kernel-deep and more importantly, hiding it once you uninstall PUBG?
Other anti-cheat programms can easily be removed and don't require me to start my PC in safe-mode to remove them...
They are purposefully making it harder to remove the Wellbia-software and if you don't see the dishonesty and the sinister purpose behind that, then I guess we both think very differently.

Lega replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 11:38:40 am PDT
Lega replied to Please April 27, 2023 @ 11:38:40 am PDT

@忍者 Tortuga

You may see what the EU and others might do but you don't see what it means for the game or the companies who do offer the service of the anti-cheat. It would be the end of them and this is huge motivation to not abuse it.

Our data might be useful and it has a value but there is nothing they don't know already about us, so the cost/value calculation is a decent indicator why this never gonna happen.

The kernel-level anti-cheat is necessary because it helps detect cheaters better than just running the anti-cheat on the normal user-level area.

Cheats don't operate there and this is why anti-cheats need the same level.

I do understand that you would like to see it removed once you uninstall PUBG but for the fact this driver doesn't activate itself but on demand when PUBG starts, it isn't a big deal.

IMO, the system should go even further and force the entire process right from the start of the system because currently, as I said, it works on demand. If this means, I have to boot the system later in safe mode to remove it, I have no problem with it.

Btw, there are always people with knowledge who check what all this processes do so it wouldn't take years, just say. :steamthumbsup:

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