So instead of maybe fixing and patching the still horribly optimized Serious Sam 4 and/or maybe, finally, update Fusion and pull it out of beta, Croteam decides they're making another Serious Sam instead? I grew up a huge Sam fan when no one else I knew heard of this game, supported Croteam for a very long time, but ever since the making of and releasing of Sam 4, the company from my point of view seems like they really only care about the money they make now. The little I see them actually interact with there community is through the little 7Smoke group, who are a lot more toxic of a community then they like to show on the surface, coming from someone who used to be apart of it. They have a member who literally thinks Covid started 9-11. And Croteam seems to barely communicate with them as it is, only once in a while when it looks good PR wise. Hopefully they have a change of culture at some point, but I doubt it.

Dude, just because you have issues with the game doesn't mean the majority of people do and if a bug can not be reproduced by the developers then it can not be fixed. A small overly vocal minority of people doesn't mean a game has major issues for the rest of the players. Most issues with any game are PEBCAK. I've noticed over the years, way back on the good old forums that the most issues come from people that refused to supply their specs when they have an issue just so they can blame the developer. or Steam.

If you want to communicate with Croteam then you do so on their discord server not here on Steam. They are not obligated to talk to us here in a Steam user forum. Communicate with them directly on their forums and report your bugs there. Except for a few bugs that were quickly fixed and needing to patch the DX12 and Vulcan the following week the game released it has run great. PCs have millions of hardware and software combinations and no game is goign to run properly on 100% of them. I you want a "guarantee" a game will run then stick to gaming on a console where they only have to program for one set of hardware and software.

I'm totally fine with a new SS game. Even though I have enjoyed 3 & 4 I would love them to return to a style more like SSFE and SSSE. I prefer a little more fantasy to reality in my SS games. Makes it easier to find things. In fact I'm surprise no one has modded SS3/4 on SSHD like someone did that awful DNF as a DOOm 2 mod. DNF is actually fun as a doom2 mod.

I am glad they are moving on. I would rather play more games from them than play this one with better FPS again. Croteam are my heros

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

Although I expect "a new game" means a standalone expansion.

I cant stand when good developers spend 10 years on a single game. Its such an enormous waste. We are starved of good games. More please.

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

I am glad they are moving on. I would rather play more games from them than play this one with better FPS again. Croteam are my heros

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

Although I expect "a new game" means a standalone expansion.

I cant stand when good developers spend 10 years on a single game. Its such an enormous waste. We are starved of good games. More please.

I understand and do actually appreciate this sentiment. It does suck that games take forever and a day to be made, especially if you are a smaller studio. I would prefer that they fix their previous game first, but hey, hopefully they optimize this next Sam better... I just doubt it.

Originally posted by ScrapedOffRoad(Maddogge):

Dude, just because you have issues with the game doesn't mean the majority of people do and if a bug can not be reproduced by the developers then it can not be fixed. A small overly vocal minority of people doesn't mean a game has major issues for the rest of the players. Most issues with any game are PEBCAK. I've noticed over the years, way back on the good old forums that the most issues come from people that refused to supply their specs when they have an issue just so they can blame the developer. or Steam.

If you want to communicate with Croteam then you do so on their discord server not here on Steam. They are not obligated to talk to us here in a Steam user forum. Communicate with them directly on their forums and report your bugs there. Except for a few bugs that were quickly fixed and needing to patch the DX12 and Vulcan the following week the game released it has run great. PCs have millions of hardware and software combinations and no game is goign to run properly on 100% of them. I you want a "guarantee" a game will run then stick to gaming on a console where they only have to program for one set of hardware and software.

I'm totally fine with a new SS game. Even though I have enjoyed 3 & 4 I would love them to return to a style more like SSFE and SSSE. I prefer a little more fantasy to reality in my SS games. Makes it easier to find things. In fact I'm surprise no one has modded SS3/4 on SSHD like someone did that awful DNF as a DOOm 2 mod. DNF is actually fun as a doom2 mod.

I am far from the only person with performance issues with this game, and since I am using a Zephyrus ROG laptop with a RTX 2060, I definitely know that its not because my specs arent up to snuff. Your argument also works against you, as just cause YOU have good performance, doesn't negate that a lot of other people with very capable rigs have bad performance when they shouldnt. I'd also like to point out, that quite a few reviews have shown that performance on consoles is inconsistent at best. Croteam also doesnt like to communicate with there community on discord unless they are apart of that toxic little 7Smoke community they have goin over there. They are not the most consumer friendly developer as they used to be.

Originally posted by ScrapedOffRoad(Maddogge):

Dude, just because you have issues with the game doesn't mean the majority of people do and if a bug can not be reproduced by the developers then it can not be fixed. A small overly vocal minority of people doesn't mean a game has major issues for the rest of the players. Most issues with any game are PEBCAK. I've noticed over the years, way back on the good old forums that the most issues come from people that refused to supply their specs when they have an issue just so they can blame the developer. or Steam.

You know, the actual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem is that a majority of people are having issues, I don't see where you're seeing this minority

I think their wording was bad, I doubt there's gonna be a new Serious Sam game announcement so far
I mean they are working on Talos Principle 2 and also on a SS4 DLC so imo getting a new Sam Game announcement is unlikely

Originally posted by IIIExTaZzYIII:

I think their wording was bad, I doubt there's gonna be a new Serious Sam game announcement so far
I mean they are working on Talos Principle 2 and also on a SS4 DLC so imo getting a new Sam Game announcement is unlikely

The tweet they sent out today says new game, so idk.

I'm starting to think Devolver phrased it wrong on Twitter, like ExTaZzY stated, because most likely it's going to be a DLC taking place in between the main game levels, like Jewel of the Nile.

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

I'm starting to think Devolver phrased it wrong on Twitter, because most likely it's going to be a DLC taking place in between the main game levels, like Jewel of the Nile.

Yeah, that's what it's going to be
But if it was phrased wrong, was it on purpose ? Croteam reposted/shared that on Facebook as well

Originally posted by TheHandofChuck21:

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

I am glad they are moving on. I would rather play more games from them than play this one with better FPS again. Croteam are my heros

💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

Although I expect "a new game" means a standalone expansion.

I cant stand when good developers spend 10 years on a single game. Its such an enormous waste. We are starved of good games. More please.

I understand and do actually appreciate this sentiment. It does suck that games take forever and a day to be made, especially if you are a smaller studio. I would prefer that they fix their previous game first, but hey, hopefully they optimize this next Sam better... I just doubt it.

They will probably throw some small projects into SS4. SS2 got a huge update last year. It seems like they wing it and do what they feel like at the time. I would never want them to do anything else.

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

Originally posted by TheHandofChuck21:

I understand and do actually appreciate this sentiment. It does suck that games take forever and a day to be made, especially if you are a smaller studio. I would prefer that they fix their previous game first, but hey, hopefully they optimize this next Sam better... I just doubt it.

They will probably throw some small projects into SS4. SS2 got a huge update last year. It seems like they wing it and do what they feel like at the time. I would never want them to do anything else.

I'd be great if the small projects that they throw into SS4 would be finally fixing the game, instead of just waiting and hoping modders do like Bethesda.

Originally posted by IIIExTaZzYIII:

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

I'm starting to think Devolver phrased it wrong on Twitter, because most likely it's going to be a DLC taking place in between the main game levels, like Jewel of the Nile.

Yeah, that's what it's going to be
But if it was phrased wrong, was it on purpose ? Croteam reposted/shared that on Facebook as well

Most likely a typo, but still. One small mistake can make certain things confusing.

Fusion should be finished though or at least taken out of beta, seems all a bit of a mess at the moment, and this game still runs like crap.

Originally posted by PurSpyk!!:

Fusion should be finished though or at least taken out of beta, seems all a bit of a mess at the moment, and this game still runs like crap.

Fusion is seemingly abandoned. No updates since 2019.

Originally posted by PootisMayo:

Originally posted by PurSpyk!!:

Fusion should be finished though or at least taken out of beta, seems all a bit of a mess at the moment, and this game still runs like crap.

Fusion is seemingly abandoned. No updates since 2019.

That's the issue, issue a final update, remove the beta tag and move on. Too much is left unfinished these days and users are left with unfinished product. Its unacceptable. Fusion was so hyped, including a Serious Sam 2 remake, all to be abandoned. We instead we got Serious Sam 4 which was a total let down. Once again over hyped and all it is is a generic shooter with nothing much else.