maybe nerf spawn killing ? enemy team camp our spawn .. i cant do nothing .. just tell me why ? why u can camp on enemy redzone spawn killing ??????????

because like everyone else the enemy team too wants RP and SL and they wont nerf it get used to it, use the spectator mode before you spawn make sure your spawn is safe after spawning dont move look around double check to make sure its safe and if its not you have a few seconds to shoot first or leave the vehicle and not give free RP to the enemy

The only saving grace is that if the enemy is spawn camping you, you should be able to leave without suffering crew lock.

But in b4 "Skill issue" "Git gud" "Don't get spawn camped" start poppin up.

How do you want them to "nerf" it
If you want it to were tanks inside it explode well they tried that and all that happened was that people would camp right outside spawn

Originally posted by ⊕ Lucanus:

maybe nerf spawn killing ? enemy team camp our spawn .. i cant do nothing .. just tell me why ? why u can camp on enemy redzone spawn killing ?????????? :♥♥♥♥: :♥♥♥♥: :♥♥♥♥:

Whats the magical fix for this?

Originally posted by ⊕ Lucanus:

maybe nerf spawn killing ? enemy team camp our spawn .. i cant do nothing .. just tell me why ? why u can camp on enemy redzone spawn killing ?????????? :♥♥♥♥: :♥♥♥♥: :♥♥♥♥:

MAgical fix : buy / rent a brain for teammates.

Seriously : it's a multiplayers competitive game. Sometimes you & your team will overrun the ennemy team, other times you will be overrun.
And some other times, the battle will be "as tight as the as* of a bull surrounded by flies."

Originally posted by biomike:

How do you want them to "nerf" it
If you want it to were tanks inside it explode well they tried that and all that happened was that people would camp right outside spawn

Yeah, the whiners would have the opponent back tracked all the way back to their own spawns. Advancing on an opponents spawn without any repercussions is a tell tale sign of a poor team.

I will never under stand how in a little less then 20 years we have gone from almost universal hatred of spawn killing to apologists saying its the people dieing in the spawns fault

As for fixes 3 options either as standalone or preferably together

1 split up spawns and spread them out more{would require bigger maps to do} or they could just add a few out of bounds to the enemy off map spawns

2 rework all maps so spawn to spawn shooting and half way across the map INTO the spawns isn't a thing also delete every map where the spawns shoot into the cap points

3 if all else fails make the reward match the difficulty shooting fish in a barrel should be little or no reward because it requires little to no skill

I tried suggesting putting a timer on new spawns, making them worth nothing if killed within 15 seconds, 1/4 normal for the next 15 seconds, etc, until the player had been on the map a whole minute for full-reward kill. That suggestion was not approved for discussion. The producers want spawn camping to keep going, with the idea you'll be more likely to pay cash to get past the grind if the grind is more miserable.

Spawn camping usually means your team got steamrolled and the enemy controls the entire map, however there are some terrible maps where you can drive 30 seconds while in full cover and camp the enemy spawn (Mozdok and Middle East are probably the worst offenders). These maps need to be redesigned so one team can't snipe the enemy team so easily.

They could make it so when you're in your spawn you're invisible until you take the first shot and only after that does the invincibility counter start going down, if every teammate is inside the spawn then it should count as "no active hostile players left" so you'll lose quicker.

No matter how they rework it spawn camping will always exist or it'll make staying in your spawn too OP.

Originally posted by nosrepatsuj:

I will never under stand how in a little less then 20 years we have gone from almost universal hatred of spawn killing to apologists saying its the people dieing in the spawns fault

As for fixes 3 options either as standalone or preferably together

1 split up spawns and spread them out more{would require bigger maps to do} or they could just add a few out of bounds to the enemy off map spawns

2 rework all maps so spawn to spawn shooting and half way across the map INTO the spawns isn't a thing also delete every map where the spawns shoot into the cap points

3 if all else fails make the reward match the difficulty shooting fish in a barrel should be little or no reward because it requires little to no skill

Generals and admirals never said in ww1 or ww2 or in any other war, the phrase or anything like it "lets back down a minute until the enemy has pulled it's troops together, to give them a chance".

Originally posted by isomorphic_projection:

Originally posted by nosrepatsuj:

I will never under stand how in a little less then 20 years we have gone from almost universal hatred of spawn killing to apologists saying its the people dieing in the spawns fault

As for fixes 3 options either as standalone or preferably together

1 split up spawns and spread them out more{would require bigger maps to do} or they could just add a few out of bounds to the enemy off map spawns

2 rework all maps so spawn to spawn shooting and half way across the map INTO the spawns isn't a thing also delete every map where the spawns shoot into the cap points

3 if all else fails make the reward match the difficulty shooting fish in a barrel should be little or no reward because it requires little to no skill

Generals and admirals never said in ww1 or ww2 or in any other war, the phrase or anything like it "lets back down a minute until the enemy has pulled it's troops together, to give them a chance".

the competent ones also never said lets send our forces into the over run enemy area 1 at a time from a singular point

Originally posted by nosrepatsuj:

I will never under stand how in a little less then 20 years we have gone from almost universal hatred of spawn killing to apologists saying its the people dieing in the spawns fault

If enough people tell a lie it becomes the truth

there are million of ways to fix this but the map designe and game mechanics would need a change which is much work and most people just loose one or two tanks then they leave the match coz at this time atleast one is spawn camping allready

Originally posted by YerKiddin:

I tried suggesting putting a timer on new spawns, making them worth nothing if killed within 15 seconds, 1/4 normal for the next 15 seconds, etc, until the player had been on the map a whole minute for full-reward kill. That suggestion was not approved for discussion. The producers want spawn camping to keep going, with the idea you'll be more likely to pay cash to get past the grind if the grind is more miserable.

Except that wouldn't change anything?

You spawn in and I kill you, but you "aren't worth anything", so what if I don't get XP, I still knocked you out and pushed us that much closer to the win

Guess I'll post my ideas again.

Option A: You get 30 secs to move out of spawn into cover unhindered. Anything fired into a spawn is nullified.

Option B: Your whole side of the IS the spawn so everyone is spread out on each end of the map.